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Tom Kirkpatrick added a comment - 13/Oct/09 07:01 PM
Actually, the list at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom is probably the best one to use. The stuff listed under "Postal counties in operation from 1974 to 1996" - These are the ones that people know, recognise and use.
The attached SQL script updates the UK state/province list to the list detailed below - this list was discussed in some detail on the UK mailing list. IT does so by
1) NULLing references to counties that are to be removed in the civicrm_address table. 2) Deleting entries from the civicrm_state_province table that should not be there. 3) Altering the names of several counties to be more consistent. 4) Creating 3 additional entries for counties that were missing from the original data. The resulting state/province list contains 97 counties (the original list had 248, many of which were not really counties in the traditional sense). The list is comprised of the following: The list at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_counties_of_England#Definition together with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_counties_of_Wales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Ireland (the Northern Ireland bit only) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdivisions_of_Scotland#Council_areas In my opinion, this list is far more recognisable as a list of UK counties, and is far more usable. Hopefully this can be committed into the upcoming 3.1 release. = ENGLAND = Bedfordshire Berkshire Bristol, City of Buckinghamshire Cambridgeshire Cheshire Cornwall Co Durham Cumbria Derbyshire Devon Dorset East Riding of Yorkshire East Sussex Essex Gloucestershire Greater London Greater Manchester Hampshire Herefordshire Hertfordshire Isle of Wight Kent Lancashire Leicestershire Lincolnshire London, City of Merseyside Norfolk North Yorkshire Northamptonshire Northumberland Nottinghamshire Oxfordshire Rutland Shropshire Somerset South Yorkshire Staffordshire Suffolk Surrey Tyne and Wear Warwickshire West Midlands West Sussex West Yorkshire Wiltshire Worcestershire = WALES = Clwyd Dyfed Gwent Gwynedd Mid Glamorgan Powys South Glamorgan West Glamorgan = NORTHERN IRELAND = Co Fermanagh Co Tyrone Co Londonderry Co Antrim Co Down Co Armagh = SCOTLAND = Aberdeen City Aberdeenshire Angus Argyll and Bute Clackmannanshire Dumfries and Galloway Dundee City East Ayrshire East Dunbartonshire East Lothian East Renfrewshire City of Edinburgh Falkirk Fife Glasgow City Highland Inverclyde Midlothian Moray North Ayrshire North Lanarkshire Perth and Kinross Renfrewshire Scottish Borders South Ayrshire South Lanarkshire Stirling West Dunbartonshire West Lothian Na h-Eileanan Siar Orkney Islands Shetland Islands We at Alpha International would really welcome this improvement to the list to be implemented in 3.1. Whilst there are still some debates to be had about the list (I had no idea how complicated this could be), we would only make the following suggestion (mentioned in email conversations):
- Remove the CIty of London entry - this should just be covered by Greater London. Even if this is not entirely correct, it is a massive improvement over the current list. We look forward to seeing it in 3.1 Thanks to Tom for getting it done. Hello,
One comment (though if time permitted I'd make more). This list definitley looks better but City and London and Greater London shouldn't appear on the same list. City of London is included in Greater London - it's the equilivant of including United States and Texas as choices - or England and Yorkshire. So you should either remove City of London, or include this list for all the subdivisions of London. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London I can see the argument both ways and as I don't use this will refrain from stating a preference. I gave up using this list because of all the controversy. I just use street address, address line 1, 2 and city which gives 4 lines of address that people can self define. I then use postcodes for geo stuff. I know this just got committed, but here is an updated version that also removes City of London, leaving Greater London only. Any chance we can uncommit, and re-commit this version? If not, I'd be happy to write a standalone patch to remove the City of London.
eliminated city of london before the commit :) also fixed civicrm_state_province.tpl with the new setup. tom, can u please check Yep, looks good. Thanks Donald.
assigning for 3.1 verification
Lincolnshire is missing from civicrm_data*.mysql and civicrm_generated.mysql .
Reopening to add Lincolnshire.
i see lincolnshire already there in a 3.1 db and hence my upgrade to 3.2 fails. here are the values (2712,'Lincolnshire','LIN',1226) Argh, it turns out it *wasn't* there in 3.1 and 3.2, but it *was* there in 3.0 (and earlier releases). I re-fixed that in r28202, bringing it back with the old civicrm_state_province.id (2712) and doing an INSERT IGNORE on upgrades.
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